BREAKING NEWS - Bin Laden

**MikeJones** · May 4th, 2011, 04:01 PM

Originally Posted by VHSLhelper

Well, looks like no photos will be released
Obama says he won't release bin Laden death photo

I wish they would release the photo's. It's not that I dont believe they got him. A photo these days dont prove alot anyways. I would just like to see the dead *******.

**R13** · May 4th, 2011, 05:32 PM

Osama bin Laden compound in Abbottabad - in pictures | World news | guardian.co.uk

Some pics of the others killed at the compound, pretty graphic. Turns out his wife wasn't used as a shield, she did rush the Seals and was shot in the leg.

**tomt** · May 4th, 2011, 07:23 PM

well,

i heard,

that the Real Reason that Lindsay Lohan was out of jail, was to take out osama.

clever disguise, that actress in trouble stuff -

**tomt** · May 4th, 2011, 07:45 PM

and then theres this bit if , whatever -

How UCLA Geographers Tracked Bin Laden - Local News - Los Angeles, CA - msnbc.com

Two years before Sunday's raid on Osama bin Laden's compound in Pakistan, a team of UCLA geographers used satellites and theories usually applied to endangered species and bird migration in an effort to predict the terrorist's location.
UCLA Study: Finding Bin Laden
When it comes to the location and the type of city and building in which bin Laden was found, the model wasn't far off. It didn't place him in a cave, and there was a high probabilty that he was in Pakistan.
"It was originally a class project with four undergraduates," said Prof. Thomas Gillespie. "I asked them to take it seriously and they did a great job."
The UCLA students' model proposed a near 90-percent probability that bin Laden was in a city less than 300 kilometers from Tora Bora, the rugged area in eastern Afghanistan that was his last known location. On the team's map of concentric circles (below) extending from the Tora Bora area, Abbottabad, Pakistan, is within that 300 kilometer range -- not exactly pinpoint, but it narrows the possibilities and almost rules out Paris (15 percent probability).

"As a geography question, we have to break it down to an analysis at a global, regional, and local spatial scale," said Gillespie. "It is interesting that our 2009 model, from a global scale, would have estimated that there is a 88.9% chance he would be in Abbotabad. At a regional scale, we stated he would be in a large city. And, at a local scale, he would be in a large structure. The regional and local scale analysis were very close."
One reason the researchers zeroed in on a moderate to heavily populated town involves island biogeography theory. It states that a species is more likely to survive a catastrophic event if it's on a large island instead of a small island.
Another reason: distance decay theory. The idea that interaction between two locales declines as the space between them increases.
Gilliespie's team used night-time satellite images, electricity use patterns and other tools. They took into account possible medical needs and bin Laden's height, eliminated areas that were under the control of U.S. forces, and looked for buildings with the kinds of features a fugitive might want, such as high walls, tree cover and room for security guards.
The project was a blending of technology and traditional theory. Gonzalez had been working with satellite imagery on another project involving the Iraqi insurgency. The team applied that technology to the bin Laden project.
"It wasn't your average topic," said Gonzalez. "It was definitely out of the box. During that time, it seemed really interesting because no one had done such an analysis. We felt the public deserved a thorough analysis.
"We were given opportunities to go beyond what's traditional. We were given the opportunity to go beyond the box and use resources. We were just applying basic general principles."
Gonzalez said the idea of bin Laden hiding in a cave in Afghanistan just didn't seem likely for several reasons, including quality of life factors and patterns demonstrated by birds.
"We were basing it off endangered species of birds, so you look at their last whereabouts and where they're most likely to migrate," he said. "He will use his instinct and stay within what he's familiar with."
As for whether intelligence officials contacted Gillespie about his students' work, he noted, "Everything I do has to be public, so I am sure they do not want to talk to me."

**Rocky** · May 5th, 2011, 07:46 AM

wow......... this whole thread makes me wonder why so many people left this awesome forum.

BTW, I hear chuck norris returned from his Pakistani vacation yesterday..............

sorry, this thread needed something quickly. Calm the **** down everybody, Osama is dead, somebody worse will probably take his place, he was probably on a dialysis machine dying anyway, but at least he is gone, now lets worry about who is going to replace him.

**R13** · May 5th, 2011, 04:25 PM

Sen. John McCain denounced ?advanced interrogation? methods like waterboarding Wednesday amid a growing debate over its effectiveness reopened by the killing of Osama bin Laden.

McCain told reporters leaving an intelligence briefing for senators by CIA director Leon Panetta that he has seen no information so far to indicate that techniques like waterboarding factored significantly in the information gathering that led to bin Laden?s death.
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?So far I know of no information that was obtained, that would have been useful, by ?advanced interrogation.? In fact, according to published reports ? some of the key people who knew about this courrier denied it,? McCain said, careful to note that he was not relaying information from Panetta?s classified session with Senate Intelligence and Armed Services Committee members.

?Where there is published information in the various newspapers and media that the information about this courrier was intercepted conversation between two individuals ? that?s as far as I know,? the top Republicans on the Armed Services Committee added. ?I stand on the side of the United States and by the Geneva conventions, of which we are signatories, which we were in violation of by waterboarding.?

Senators exiting the meeting with Panetta, who is in line to become President Barack Obama?s next secretary of defense, were tight-lipped about what the CIA chief shared inside the room. McCain said he has not seen the photograph of bin Laden taken after he was shot in the face Sunday. Other senators approached in the Capitol basement said they also had not seen the photo.

The administration said Wednesday they will not release a photo. McCain told reporters he did not think the photograph needed to be released. ?My initial opinion is that it?s not necessary to do so. I think there?s ample proof that this was Osama bin Laden,? said McCain, a Vietnam War veteran.

Tuesday, the top senators on the Homeland Security Committee, Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.) and Susan Collins (R-Conn.) indicated they supported the release of the photos to ?quell? any doubts that bin Laden was the man who was shot and killed in Pakistan Sunday.

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